ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ

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mellene.
ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
24.04.2006 17:30
Es ðo te izlasîju citâ forumâ. Varbût kâdu tas interesç:

I have a friend who is a very famous herbalist and medical doctor in Iran. He and his teammates have found a herbal/ Marine medicine called “ Hesa” which can cure cancer. They have published many essays in the famous medical journals about it as a new found drug to curing cancer .This medicine has no side effects and has passed scientific tests and the result was all positive .It has now the patent. In Iran the medicine has been working as a miracle on the patients who were at end stage (it means they were waiting for death and no medicine could cure their cancer). The medicine is going to be in mass production in next few months and will be distributed soon.


Here is some links of the essays on Hesa in the famous web journals`

www.medicaljournal-ias.org/14_4/Hajhashemi.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=15917722&dopt=Abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=15921023&dopt=Abstract

http://www.medscimonit.com/medscimonit/modules.php?name=Current_Issue&d_op=summary&id=6460
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
24.04.2006 17:45
Izlasîju. Neârstç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ, bet uzlabo redzi un samazina peinkilleru devu. Par izârstçtu vçzi var uzskatît pçc 5 gadiem.
Bet nu interesanti. Gaidiðu citas atsauksmes pabmedâ par ðo, kas noteikti ienâksies pçc publicçðanas. Butu ïoti jauki, ja lîdzçtu :)
eredisfunks
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
24.04.2006 18:52
Internetâ ir diezgan daudz visâdu brînumzâïu atrodams.

Piemçram kaut kâda tçja, ko amerikas indiâòi dzer, tad bija viena recepte, kad spirtu jauc ar eïïu un to dzer lielos daudzumos, sak audzçjs piesûcas ar eïïu un no pârliekâs enerìijas pats sadeg.
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
24.04.2006 19:45
No shii iraaniesha staastiitaa, sapratu, ka tam aarstam ir diezgan liela pieredze dazjaadu slimiibu aarsteeshanaa. Vieniigi patenteejis vinjsh ir tikai tagad.
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
24.04.2006 19:48
krutâkâ recepte ir un paliek dzîvja krupja spirta uzlçjums...
Çâ, pag, tas jau gadu apakaï publicçts?? Hmm, moð jamie turpina pçtîjumu. katrâ ziòâ par brînumzâlçm ðitâs nosaukt ir pâragri.
eredisfunks
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
24.04.2006 22:25
es te no sava rada kanâdâ izspiedu ðâdu priekð sava tçva: http://www.heall.com/books/health/essiac/index.html

laikam bija par vçlu, vai ne no tâs firmas :)

te vçl ðis tas
http://ethnobotany.yage.net/taxol.html
http://www.holisticwebs.com/cancer/cancer2.html
http://www.planetherbs.com/articles/cancer.html
http://www.immucor.ru/onkology.htm
http://www.aminaods.pochta.ru/page281.html
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 00:22
Nu vispâr es apstîjos kas tas ir par þurnâlu.. sprieþot pçc tâ, kas tur publicçjas - nu kaukas nedaudz krutâks par mûsu zinâtòu akadçmijas vçstîm (vai kâ nu jamo tur sauca).
Domâju, ka ja tas bûtu bijis kaukas tieðâm vçrâ òemams, tad tas bûtu publicçts þurnâlâ ar daudz lielâku impaktu.
daktere Dace
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 09:47
Nu diezin vai tâds "zâlîðu uzlçjums" ârstçs vçzi, kur nu vçl - pçdçjâ stadijâ. Cilvçki, protams, tic brînumiem, bet nu domâjiet ar prâtu!
bazuka
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 10:24
Es jau kâ mûris palieku pie tâ, ka, ja tieðâm bûtu kaut kas, kas ârstç vçzi, nu nepaliktu ðî lieta nekâdâ tur pagrîdç, apvçrsums medicînâ bûtu.
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 10:27
Nu tieði tâ. Un, òemot vçrâ ka ðie raxti pârçjâ pasaulç îpaðu atzinîbu neieguva - nu tad... Bûtu jau, protams, baigi feini, ja pçkðòi atklâtu kâdu homeopâtisku zâlîti, kas ârstç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ, bet nu kautkâ man neticâs ka tâda ir... Jâiztiek ar to, kas ðobrîd pieejams.
mellene.
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 11:27
Es tâ iedomâjos, ja bûtu saistîta ar medicînu, mani ðîs zâles noteikti ieinteresçtu. Bet jûs tâ uzreiz neko par to nezinot- noliedzat:(
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 12:27
mellene

Tas attieca stikai uz ðo augu vai arî gana populâro petrolejas-pacienta èuru maisîjumu? (arî tâdu kâds dziednieks-traktorists lietoja. Pats teica, ka ar rezultâtiem).
mellene.
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 12:43
,,,vai man atbildçt ir vçrts?:-)))
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 12:46
neko jau tas nemainîs, bet interesanti bûtu...
mellene.
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 13:16
,,, es pieveerstu uzmaniibu arii visaadiem petrolejas èuru maisîjumiem. Taèu ðis man liekas diezgan nopietns pçtîjums. Pie tam es divu gadu garumâ esmu lasiijusi ðî irânieða domas kâdâ forumâ, tâpçc varu noticçt, ka tam patieðâm ir pamats.
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 13:20
Es jau teicu - interesants pçtîjums, taèu tur nav ne vârda par izârstçðanu (jo, kâ jau teicu, izârstçts vçzis skaitâs tikai pçc 5 gadiem) - savukârt atvieglot simptomâtiku - tas ir labi. Un vçl - kâpçc tad viòð publicçjâs kautkâdâ vietçjâ þurnâlîtî ar zemu impaktu nevis kâdâ labâkâ? Tâ taèu to pçtîjumu neviens îsti neievçros, kamçr nebûs nopublicçts kâdâ normâlâ cancer þurnâlâ, kuru nav mazums?
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 13:24
Gribu redzçt, ko teiktu MADEKKI par petrolejas èuru maisîjuma iebaroðanu pacientam...

A par pçtîjumu- man ðíiet tur subjektu skaits stingri klibo lîdz statistiskai ticamîbai
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 13:39
petrolejas èuru maisîjumu dzer tâpat.. tâpat arî spirtotos krupjus çd.. un vçl jau ir viskautkâdi tautas medicînas ziediòi..

par subjektu skaitu - nu jâ, klibo jau, 1., 2 - a kâda tâm sievietçm bija iepriekðçjâ terapija, a kâds bij audzçja histoloìiskais tips, a kur vçl viòâm bija mts? 3. a kâpçc òçma tikai tâdasd kas zem 50? 4. A ja òçma zem 50 - kâda ìençtika tur apakðâ (jo brca zem 50 ïoti bieþi ir ìimenes anamnçze pozitîva) 5 - a cik çtiski ir kontroles grupu barot ar placebo, ja ir skaidrs, ka ðitâ zâle palîdz? (ðis vispâr ir diezgan aktuâls jautâjiens klîniskajos pçtîjumos, kur iet runa par dzîvîbu), 6. Es nesekoju ðâdiem pçtîjumiem, bet vçlreiz saku - ja jau Cancer Care vai Cancer Journal vai kâds no ðitiem http://www.cancerindex.org/clinks9.htm to raxtu nepaòçma, tad ir skaidrs, ka kaukas tur nav tâ, kâ vajag. Punkts.

Îsumâ atbilde ir ðite:
http://2006.confex.com/uicc/uicc/techprogram/P8393.HTM
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 13:44
Nu ja, es jau rakstîju par to, ka nespeciâlists nekâdi nevar izvçrtçt pçtîjuma dizainu (es ar nevaru, epidemioloìiju slikti mâcîjos), tik dr.lv atkal uzkârâs...

Un- pats jau var dzert ko grib, bet ârsts jau nu gan var ziepes dabût par petrolejas ieteikðanu. Tieði tam ir visas uzrauginstitûcijas, lai lietotu tikai reìistrçtus preparâtus un apstiprinâtas metodes. It kâ jau pacienta labâ tas viss darîts tiek.
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 13:45
kâ jau es te vienreiz minçju kautkad - ui ka derçtu visas ðitâs uzrauginstitûcijas dziedniekiem un tml. uzlaist... ui ka tur putçtu.
(man arî uzkârâs)
mellene.
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 13:50
ui, Noela, biku baisa izklausies...
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 13:55
Akurât skatos vakardienas Dâvidðova atkârtojumu- par dziedniekiem.
ÐItenais bebru Mârtiòð saka, ka Dâvidam vçzis nedraud, Jansonu Ilze gan teica, ka esot jamam vçþa potenciâls (ja pareizi atceros)... Kam lai tic?
mellene.
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 14:05
Þçl, ka vakar neskatîjos. Es domâju, ka potenciâls ir visiem. Kâ notiek vai nenotiek daudz atkarîgs no dzîvesveida.
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 14:06
Var jau pçcâk noskatîties, kad ir laiks...
Cielaviòa
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 14:07
Smejat,smejat lielie prâtvçderi,ja paðiem butu vçzis ne vien petroleju dzertu,kas patieðam ir efektîga pie asins saslimðanâm,bet arî govs sûdus çstu çdamkarotçm,kad cilvçkam pasaka to baiso diagnozi -vçzis,vinð ir gatavs uz visu,es vçlreiz atkartoju uz VISU!!!!!!! Starpcitu ar receptiti eïïâ +degvins ,ne viens vien no vçþa íetnâm ir izíeperojies,protams ja pirms tam organismms nav izmocîts ar staroðanu un íîmiju.Tâ lûk!!!
mellene.
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 14:07
Es neesmu tâds speèuks, lai atrastu internetâ.
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 14:11
Cielaviòa

Tas, ka cilvçks ir ar mieru darît visu ko, tas ir skaidrs un saprotams.
Bet vai Tevis minçtâs receptes darbojas, par to gan ðaubos...
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 14:13
mellene

te vispâr ir visi pieejamie raidîjumi (kreisajâ pusç uz tiem dzeltenajiem kvadrâtiòiem)

http://www.tvnet.lv/onlinetv/

un te tieði tyas raidîjums (jâspieþ zem rakta virsraksta, kur rakstîts video)

http://www.tvnet.lv/onlinetv/tv5/davidshow/article.php?id=188421
Par ðiem nebju dzirdçjusi, taèu par struteòu (krieviski Èistoteï)sulu gan. Tikai jâzinâ kâ lietot, jo tâ esot baigi indîgâ...
Re: ârsç vçzi pçdçjâ stadijâ
25.04.2006 15:13
Man mamma dzçra struteòu sulu un kâdus vçl ne uzlçjumus, bez rezultâta. Un tante pazîstama tâpat ar vçzi aizgâja, nekâdas sulas nelîdzçja...
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