Smeekjeeshanas miinusi

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jaut
Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
15.02.2005 17:53
kaa lai taa neuzbaaziigi un logjiski paskaidro ko nodara smeekjeeshana tavai veseliibai pie tam ja slimo ar mazasaniibu - naaK gjiibonji un vemshana... ?

Man zzeel meitens veseliibas :(

Augsti noveerteeshu ja diskusijaa piedaliisies aarsti ka svarees dot mediciniski pamatotus argumentus.. nu par to ka asisn vadi sashaurinaas un ka vinjai jau taa probleemas ar asinsriti.. nu taa

Paldies!
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Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
15.02.2005 18:02
Ar baidiishanu nekas nesanaaks. A tie logjiskie argumenti nekas cits kaa baidiishana nav.
jaut
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
15.02.2005 20:03
nu un kaa tad?
Danais
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
16.02.2005 15:04
Tikai ar pasha speekiem un galvenais -VEELEESHANOS. Jo ja negribees atmest- neatmetiis.
kaza
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
16.02.2005 15:34
Tam, kas gribçs smçíçt jebkuri argumenti ðíitîs nepârliecinoði. Jo daudzi taèu to dara visu mûþu un veseli nomirst.
Turklât ir tâds stulbs paradums, ka atrod ilgdzîvotâju simtgadnieku un uzsver ne jau labvçlîgus gçnus un apstâkïus, bet, ka ðis redziet visu mûþu iedzçris, uzpîpçjis u.t.t.

Skuíim varbût der, ka âtri nesmuka paliks, krunkaina, zobi dzelteni ...
K
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
16.02.2005 16:04
daudz informâcijas ir http://nosmoking.times.lv/
bet vispâr jau ir taisnîba kazai. Ja gribçsies atrast attaisnojumus, tad viòa tos atradîs.
Nja
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
16.02.2005 21:48
Galvenais miinuss, ka smird mute, buchoties ne katrs gribees ar taadu. Lai gan arii tas arguments ir slikts, smeekjeetaajiem tas netraucee.
Jap, kad dziive piespiediis, tad arii beigs. Vai nu dikti saslims, ka mirstamaa vaina, jebshu sagribeesies ar kaadu nesmeekjeetaaju salaist, kam taadas smarzhas neiet pie duushas, jebshu sadomaas, ka siiko gribas veselu radiit.

Iisteniibaa jaunam un veselam cilveekam smeekjeeshanaa ir vairaak plusu nekaa miinusu, tamdeelj jau saak, smeekjee un neatmet.
!!!
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
16.02.2005 22:18
nu es pats shad tad uzsmeekjeeju bet vinja pacinja dienaa... nu jaa taa elpa man ne paaraak patiik un shkjiet vinja to juut .. bet nu patiesiibaa man jau arii pasham patiik shad tad uzmeekjeet.. tachu ne jau tik biezzi.. man aiziet labi ja pacinja pa nedeelju
Mazdakteris
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
16.02.2005 22:48
Cienîjamâ NJA kïûdâs. Es teiktu,ka jauniem ir tik jûtîga Neiro-hormonâlâ sistçma,ka viòiem nekâdâ gadîjumâ nedrîkst smçíçt.Cita lieta,ka viòiem ir maz zinâðanu un ir liela izturîbas rezerve.Pçc 40 gadiem ,kad dziest neiro-hormonâlâ sistçma un dzîve prasa vairâk un vairâk strâdât, neviïus sâc domât par papildus stimulâtoru meklçðanu. Pçc Zviedru klasifikâcijas smçíi nav ienesti atkarîbu veidojoðo vielu sarakstâ.Par atkarîbu veidojoðâm vielâm sauc vielas,kas neatkarîgi no lietotâja konstitûcijas,dzimuma,vecuma,rases,sociâlâ stâvokïa,ticîbas agrâk vai vçlâk izsauc atkarîbu,kas bieþi vairs nav pârvarama un nodara neatgriezenisku zaudçjumu fiziskai un psihiskai veselîbai. Smçíiem trûkstot vienas pazîmes -neizsauc eiforiju.Pçc savas pieredzes uzdroðinos apgalvot,ka visu pârçjo parâdîbu kopa ir tik smaga,ka smçíçtâjs beidzot ticis pie smçía, izjût tâdu baudu un atvieglojumu ,ko droði varçtu saukt arî par eiforiju.NIKOTÎNS galvenâ viela,kas piedalâs organisma prasîbu apmierinâðanâ. Nikotînu varçtu nosaukt par íîmisko pâtagu vai milnu.Tâ iedarbîbâ no virsnierçm tiek "izsista" mobilizçjoðâ viela ADRENALINS. Parastos apstâkïos A-s nodroðina normâlu asinsvadu tonusu.Briesmu gadîjumos viòð tiek izsviests desmitiem ja ne simtiem reiþu lielâkâ devâ.Organisms sâk strâdât maksimâli pieïaujamâ âtrumâ,kas ïauj izdzîvot.Tâda forsâþa ir pieïaujama dzîvîbas glâbðanas brîþos.Miljoniem gadu laikâ attîstîjies organisms instinktîvi saprot par draudoðâm briesmâm un ieslçdz ðîs indes neitralizçðanas mehânismus.Tolorences jeb indes neitralizçðanas dçï cilvçks ir neglâbjami spiests palielinât smçíçðanas devu vai bieþumu.Organisms tâ pielâgojas dotai devai,ka tâs nesaòemðanas gadîjumâ iestâjas t.s. paìiru sindroms,kas ir tik spçcîgs,ka upuris iet uz visu ko ,lai tikai dabûtu smçíi. Viòð ir gatavs zemoties,lasît izsmçíus no atkritumu urnâm,naida un niknuma uzplûdos gatavs pat laupît.Pienâk brîdis,kad organisms palielinâtâs devâs saòem darvvielas-vçzi radoðâs indes,râdioaktîvo Poloniju-normâlo ðûniòu pârvçtçju vçþa ðûnâs,zilskâbi, CO-2 tvana gâzi,kas eritrocîtos neþçlîgi izsit skâbekïa molekulas un aizvieto tâs ar savâm.No skâbekïa trûkuma hroniski cieð smadzeòu ðûnas un izteikti cieð perifçrija-âda,dzimumorgâni ,apakðçjâs ekstremitâtes.Vîrieðiem ir kâda specifiska slimîba Claudio intermitens,pie kuras neviens ârsts neòemas to ârstçt,ja pacients neatmet smçíçðanu.Pretçjâ gadîjumâ iznâkums ir tikai viens .Apakðçjo ekstremitâðu amputâcija.Ir pamatotas aizdomas ,ka daudzo mikro samaòu zaudçðanas rezultâtâ ( minûtes simtdaïas) smçíçtâjs- auto vadîtâjs iet bojâ it kâ nesaprotamu iemeslu dçï.Kâ mikstiòât triecienu nâkoðâ reizç pie attiecîga pieprasîjuma. Ar cieòu un Dieva palîgu.
Mazdakteris
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
17.02.2005 23:07
Aknas raþo asinsíermenîðus,veido imûnaizsardzîbu,neitralizç indes,piedalâs tauku skaldîðanâ. Smçíçðanas rezultâtâ aknas tiek pârslogotas,sliktâk strâdâ. Asinsíermenîðus raþo kâju kaulu smadzenes. Bez ðîm smadzençm organisms kïûst pilnîgi neaizsargâts pret infekciju un agri vai vçlu iet bojâ. Kautkas lîdzîgs AIDS.Glâbj tikai kaulu smadzeòu pârstâdîðana. Smçíçðanas rezultâtâ ,kâ jau teicu iepriekð ,apakðçjâs ekstremitâtes cieð ievçrojami.plauðâs ilgstoðas smçíçðanas rezultâtâ attîstâs iekaisuma procesi. Iekaisuma procesi attîstâs augðçjos elpoðanas ceïos. Tâ rezultâtâ slimnieks krekðíina,klepo un rodas tâ saucamais smçíçtâja spïâviens-dzelteni zaïganas (strutainas) gïotas.No tâ rodas hronisks augðçjo ceïu iekaisums. Augðçjo ceïu gïotâdâ veselâ stâvoklî ir spçjîga aizsargâties pret veselu rindu mikrobu un vîrusiem. Tajâ skaitâ pret meningîta bacili. Ja rîkles gïotâda ir iekaisusi infekcijai organismâ iekïût ir ârkârtîgi viegli. Smçíçtâji ,neapstrîdami ,bieþâk slimo ar augðçjo ceïu slimîbâm.Darba sevçjiem ðis fakts ir jâatceras.Daudzie smçíçtâja "plusi" zûd proporcionâli smçíçðanas bieþumam,ilgumam un nodzîvotajiem gadiem.Smçíçðana tika ieviest 15 gadsimtâ,kad K .Kolumbs atklâja Ameriku. To smçíçja bronzas laikmeta indiâòu ciltis. Viduslaiki ir tumðâkais Eiropas periods,kad civilizâcija stâvçja uz izmirðanas sliekðòa,kad sievietes ,vîrieðus un pat bçrnus dezinâja dzîvus uz sârtiem par burvestîbâm.Diemþçl mçs neesam tâlu aizgâjuði no saviem priekðteèiem. ..Lai jums viela pârdomâm un Dieva svçtîba.
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
17.02.2005 23:19
a kâdi ir smçíçðanas plusi?
anna
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
18.02.2005 02:14
Pçc cik ilga laika plauðas attîrâs, ja smçkçðanu atmet??
K
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
18.02.2005 09:09

no vienas sarakstes - kas notiek ar organismu pçc smçíçðanas pârtraukðanas

At 20 minutes after quitting:
*blood pressure decreases (though it can fluctuate weeks or months after quitting, and may be affected by NRT)
*pulse rate drops (though it can fluctuate weeks after quitting)
*the body manufactures more mucus to begin `flushing' the system
*body temperature of hands and feet increases

At 8 hours:
*carbon monoxide level in blood drops to normal
*oxygen level in blood increases to normal
*the nervous system begins to awaken

At 24 hours:
*chance of a sudden heart attack decreases substantially
*blood vessels are expanding back to normal
*most of the nicotine has left your body
*hormone and other body chemical levels begin a process of
readjustment
[If not using NRT, you may be experiencing tingling in the limbs and face; dizziness- due to increased blood/oxygen flow; blurred vision;
concentration or memory difficulties- same reason]

At 48 hours:
*nerve endings start regrowing
*the cilia in the lungs, becoming unparalyzed, begin cleaning the
lungs- IF YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN LUNG DISEASE BY NOW, YOU MOST LIKELY
WONT.
*the body's cells demand nicotine
*ability to smell and taste may be enhanced
[If not using NRT, you may be: jittery; exhausted; having difficulty
sleeping; restless/irritable; angry and/or emotional; difficulty
talking; increased clumsiness]

At 72 hours:
*eyesight may sharpen; colors become more vivid
*bacteria in the gastro-intestinal tract are shifting back to normal
*all nicotine has left the body, though nic metabolites will be
detectable in the hair follicles and fingernails for up to a year
[If not using NRT, you may be (still all of the above and): gassy;
bloated; cramping; hungry or not hungry at all]
*heart may be fluctuating in rate and frequency

After the 2nd week:
*hormone levels begin stabilizing (though menstrual cycles may alter
in the next months)
*most withdrawal symptoms have peaked in severity
*chemical (physiological) withdrawal comes to an end.
*bronchial tubes relaxing, making breathing easier (though you may
feel tightness in ribs, chest, back)
[If not using NRT, you may be continue to experience detox symptoms
for a week or two more, although they'll generally be slowly
diminishing over this time]

At 3 weeks to 3 months:
*circulation improves
*walking becomes easier
*lung function increases

At 90 days:
*Most quitters report feeling more-or-less back to normal by this time

At 6 months:
*Underlying depression issues may need to be addressed

By 9 months:
*coughing, sinus congestion, fatigue, shortness of breath decreases for good

At 1 year:
*excess risk of coronary heart disease is decreased to half that of a smoker
*nicotine metabolites no longer detectable in the hair follicles or fingernails

At 5 years
*risk of death from lung cancer to have decreased by almost half
*risk of stroke is reduced to that of a nonsmoker
*risk of cancer of the mouth, throat and esophagus is now half that
of a smoker's

At 10 years
*all precancerous cells have been replaced
*risk of cancer of the mouth, throat, esophagus, bladder, kidney and
pancreas is now that of a non-smoker's

At 15 years +
*risk of coronary heart disease that of a person who has never smoked
*risk of death from lung cancer similar to that of non-smokers'
*overall risk of death has returned to nearly that of a person who
has never smoked
kaza
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
18.02.2005 09:36
Nu tak pareizi, kâ var besaprast, ka smçíçðanai NAV NEVIENA PLUSA, TIKAI UN VIENÎGI MÎNUSI !!!
K
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
18.02.2005 12:28
ja nebûtu plusu, tad neviens nesmçíçtu.

Es esmu nonâcis pie atzinuma, ka lielâkoties cilvçki sâk smçíçt tâpçc, ka komunicçjoties ar citiem, viòiem pietrûkst paðapziòas. Jo lielâkâ daïa sâk smçíçt jaunîbâ vai pusaudþa gados, kad ir svarîgas apkârtçjo domas par sevi. Nu un tad gribas bût biki "sliktajam puikam vai meitenei".

Pçc tam smçíçðana ir lîdzeklis, kâ noslçpt emocijas. Ja nebûtu smçía, tad bûtu par tâm jâdomâ. Uzsmçíçjot var aizbçgt. Daþreiz tas ir progresîvi, bet visâ visumâ - nç.

Es apmçram tâ to redzu.
anna
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
18.02.2005 13:34
Es jauniba smekjeju, jo shkjita, ka ta kljushu tievaaka. Smekjeju no 16 -23 gadiem. Tad naca apzinja, ka stulbi tishuprat sevi bendet. Nu jau 4 gadus nesmekjeju, atmetu bez plaksteriem,bez koshljeneem. Ja grib, tad to var izdariit.
janka
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
18.02.2005 17:17
Es ar jau mçnesi nepîpçju. Viegli gan nav. Lîmçju plâksterus.Trakâkais ir izturçt stresa momentos, tad pçc paraduma gribas aizsmçkçt.

Bet plusu pîpçðanâ gan nav nekâdu.

Tagad gan ir plusi - atgriezusies normâla oþa un garða, sejas krâsa svaigâka. Galvenais izturçt.
bauda
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
18.02.2005 22:18
Aizbildinoties, ka jâuzpîpç, varu iziet no jebkuras situâcijas aizmûkot ârâ. Tas ir mans laiks, kad tiek pârdomâtas vissvarîgâkâs domas un atnâk ìeniâlas idejas. Aizliegums smçíçt ir tik pat neauglîgs kâ aizliegums vîrietim sçdçt pusstundu uz poda ar mîïoto laikrakstu rokâ. Smçíçðana ir intîms iekðçjas koncentrâcijas process, meditâcija lçni ievelkot sevî kûpoðu miglas mâkonîti un izpûðot to krâðòâs vçrpetçs. Tas ir process, kad es lieku sev mutç mîïoto baudvielu un gûstu maksimâlu kaifu, process, kad komunikçju ar patîkamiem sarunu biedriem un dibinu jaunas attiecîbas. Es dievinu smçíçðanu. Tai piemît Freidisks erotisms. Es neliedzu sev baudu brîvi izvçlçties laika pavadîðanas veidu. Atvainojiet, ieðu uzsmçíçt...
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
19.02.2005 10:27
Bauda,
Labi uzrakstiita teorija!:) Bet taa ir taa der tikai uz kaada reklaamas plakaata uznjeemumam, kas ir tuvu bankrotam!:)

Smeekjeeshana gan nav ieksheejaas koncentraacijas process, bet gan olbaltumvielu denaturaacijas process katraa kjermenja shuunaa! DNS kjeedes katraa piipeeshanas reizee "atritinaas" un tai ir vajadziigs katru reizi lielaaks laiks, lai ienjemtu saakotneejo veidu, process notiek leenaak, leenaak, leenaak, liidz beidzot tas vienaa reizee nenotiek un tad notiek mutaacija un rodas veezis! Taads mazinsh, mazinsh, kluss, kluss un taa nemanaami piezogas Tev no mugurpuses un tad - caks - un iekozh papeedii ....

Uzpiipeeshanas vietaa ieshu pastaigaaties pa mezhu!:)
nesmçíçtâjs
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
19.02.2005 13:33
Esmu nesmçíçtâjs, un ir gadîjies uzpîpçt galvenokârt iedzçruðam, nu ziniet es tur baudu nekâdu neesmu sajutis. No mana viedokïa tas ir tâ pat kâ sâkt dzert tçju ar cukuru un pçc laika dzert tçju bez cukura, protams ka tad liksies ka tçja nav dzerama.
...
Re: baudai
19.02.2005 13:38
No tiesas- rakstiits kaa cigareshu reklaamas kampanjaa. Ja veel piereekjina- dzeltenos zobus, aplikto meeli un smirdosho elpu, kaa arii matus, apgjeerbu, rokas un paareejo. probleemas ar kunjgji un zarnu trakta darbiibu. Hronisku plaushu slimiibu veelaak- nemaz vairs nav tik rozhaini. Tik to nez kaapeec saka tikai tie, kam muuzha peedeejos 5-10 gadus jaapavada pusseedus gultaa ar pastaaviigu elpas truukumu.
autors
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
19.02.2005 18:54
bet vinja jau jauna un nedomaa par taadaam lietaam!
...
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
19.02.2005 19:29
taatad smeekkjees, kameer pati neizdomaas paartraukt.
K
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
20.02.2005 11:58
Tur jau tas joks. Katrs pats ir atbildîgs par to, ko viòð ar sevi dara.
Mazdakteris
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
23.02.2005 22:55
Te notiek traìçdija.Meitene mîl puisi kurð smçíç.Puisis par to uzzin un saka,ka smçíç no bçrna kâjas.Tad rodas jautâjums vai viòð tâ arî nav palicis bçrns. Meitenes dçï jâatmet dûmoðana.. Ja pazaudçsi ðo meiteni, pazaudçsi nâkoðo un tâ visu`mûþu. Padomâ.Lûdz augstâkos sp``ekus.
autors to Mazdakterim
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
23.02.2005 23:44
taa ir meiten kas smeekjee un puisis kas nesmeekjee!!! Doooo palasi veelreiz teemas nosaukumu!
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
23.02.2005 23:50
Mazdakteris runaaja par citu diskusiju, nevis par sho, bet vai nav vienalga, smeekjee sieviete vai viirietis? Slikti tik un taa.
mazdakteris
Re: Smeekjeeshanas miinusi
31.03.2005 22:13
Jâsûta ðî tçma uz svaigaku lapu jo tas cilvçkus interesç.
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