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to Autors: pârkopçts viedoklis
Datums: 26-07-2005 14:37


Negribeju iejaukties saruna jo Latvija ir tikko izgajusi no Stalina enas. Vel visi esam smagi slimi.
Bet anonimais kopetajs ir parak bistams. Vins sak apvainot visas Eiropas valstis un ASV sazverestiba pret normaliem cilvekiem.Tas lidzinas Cionas svetajiem rakstiem kas tika "atklati" ar vienu merki-iznicinat izrelas tautu.
Sis rakst atgadina Mein Kampf.Hitlera maka manipulet ar cilveku pratiem.
Atseviski secinajumi partop parliecinosa aicinajuma.
Stalins ari rakstija parliecinosi,isi,shematiski. Tas ir fasisms.Aicinajums uz bezkompramisa cinu. Neatbalstu gejus.Domaju,ka gajieni nav tas labakais veids ka sevi reklamet. Bet mums javadas no viena nekludiga starptautika dokumenta no kura vadas visa civilizeta pasaule.Tas ir Cilvektiesibu dekleracija.Latvija ir zem si dokumenta parakstijusies.Mes tikai tapec esam ANO,Eiropas savieniba.NATO.
Parak daudzi sak runat par Latviju ka fasistu zemi. Mes to nedrikstam veicinat.

www.latvians.lv.... tur ir raksts par to ka viss noticis gajiena homoseksualu, bet tur pret siem cilvekiem ir rakstits ar tadu necienu, ka dazkart ir jadoma vai latviesi vispar sajedz ko raksta... kapec nolapits ir jabut tadam naidam pret homoseksualiem? mes visi esam Latviesi, bet ja policija nebutu metusies aiztavet tad heteroseksuali butu nogalinajusi visus homoseksualus saja gajiena... kas pie velna notieka saja valsti ? es esmu heteroseksualis, bet sitadu necienu pret citu orientaciju neesmu redzejis...


man ir 15 gadi, bet so vajpratu ko demonstre latviesi es nespeju saprast un nevelos saprast... kura valsti pret homoseksualiem ir sada neciena? latviesi velas griezt sprandas latviesiem... tas nav saprotams... pazors...

es neatbalstu gajienu, bet kapec latviesi neciena latviesus ?

ar, cienu A.L.



Ziòojums rediìçts (27-07-2005 22:19)

Es atbalstu "laasminju"... PIETIKS so vajpratu... Homoseksuali nav slimi un nebus slimi, ka jau es teicu ieprieks... pasa sakuma sai milzigajai temai tas ir rakstits.... un to rakstija arsts, kas ir daudz zinosaks par to vai ta ir slimiba vai nav... es cienu tos cilvekus, kuri ir saprotosi un nav naida pilni pret homoseksualiem... un godigi sakot ja ta turpinasies, tad driz izcelsies kars starp divam pusem....

1. PUSE (Heteroseksuâïi, kas neieredz homoseksualus un visi pareji kuri neieredz Homoseksualus)!

2.PUSE (Visi homoseksuali, ka ari Heteroseksuali, kuri ir par taisnibu... par vienadam tiesibam katram cilvekam, orientacijai...)!

pieminesu vel to ka esmu heteroseksualis... un esmu taja 2. puse un savu viedokli nemainisu...



Ziòojums rediìçts (27-07-2005 22:36)

Kirke mazinja veel, taadeelj var baarstiit graamatu gudriibas un teelot viedo inteligjenti. Ies laiks un dziive visu saliks savaas vietaas...

PALDIES PAR KOMENTARIEM!
PEC VISA SECINOT, VAR SAPRAST, KA TAA NAV SLIMIIBA, BET TIKAI KATRA INDIVIDA BRIVIBAS IESPEJA.
LAI VEICAS!

To Arthur. Tu esi provokaators.

Neviens profesors uz sodienu nevar viennoziimigi pateikt kas ir Homoseksualisms.

Slimiiba vai uz slimibas fona nostiprinaajusies tieksme.
Ja taa nebutu slimiba diez vai normaals cilveeks izveeleetos smirdosus anusus ,apsmieklu,nirgas,tiesu darbus,cietumu un pazemojumu.

Tikai provokaators var apgalvot ka taa ir briiva izveele. Vai liels mulkis.

Seksualitaate ir viens no lielaakiem dziivaas buutnes dzinuliem.Instinkti
Vairosanaas instinkts un dziivibas saglabaasanas instinkts ir visspeeciigaakie pasaulee.
Homoseksuaaliem vini straadaa pa tukso. Ar to gandriiz nav iespeejams ciiniities. Ja taa ir briiva izveele vai cilveeks ir biseksuaalis tad rezultaats sabiedriibas izdariita spiediena deel ,aarsteesanas gadiijumaa buus pozitiivs.

Ja sii ir slimiiba tad aarsteesanas efekts uz sodienu nav garanteets.

Andrew Comiskey, kustîbas "Desert Streams" vadîtâjs. Tâ apvieno bijuðos gejus - kristieðus, kuri ðodien ir dziedinâti un ,zdzîvo normâlu hetero seksualitâti. Arî pats viòð agrâk ir BIJIS gejs bet ðodien ir normâls

Understanding Homosexuality

Homosexual behavior is an attempt to fulfill normal needs for love, acceptance, and identity through sexual intimacy with someone of the same sex. Although the factors that contribute to the development of sexual orientation are complex and subtle, our experience suggests that one of the deepest roots of homosexuality is a break in early relational bonds. This relational breakdown can stunt the development of the individual's ability to healthily connect with others throughout life.
The security of a child depends on the three-way bond of mother to child, father to child, and the bond between the parents. Any break in these bonds can produce insecurity in the child and thus a lack of that sense of belonging and affirmation which is so vital in the development of gender identity.

If the child has an absent or an emotionally distant mother or father, he or she will feel a certain amount of vulnerability - a vague longing for closeness and protection that the parent has not been able to fulfill. In addition to this, if the young person has been sexually molested, the impact upon his or her ability to bond with others will be all the more broken.
The child may detach from the parent and other significant adults in order to avoid any further hurt and disappointment. This tendency to withdraw produces fear of intimacy, isolation from others, and envy on account of what is missing; it also adds to the weight of the unworthiness and rejection that the young person is already carrying.

This leaves him or her with tremendous needs for affirmation and affection. In most instances, the attraction for the same sex begins around the age of ten; it is emotional, non-sexual, and involuntary. With sexual maturity, these needs become eroticized; sexual intimacy becomes a primary means for feeling loved and affirmed.
Hence, sexual activity offers some sense of being truly accepted. What seems to be love is received, the person extending this love is idolized, and as the pain becomes covered over with pleasure, a momentary sense of self-esteem emerges - a temporary relief from the confusion of identity.

Finding Completion
Thus, the homosexual condition is a result of the many hurts, real or perceived, that the child has suffered in the wake of broken relationships. The homosexual behavior is the activity that emerges as that "hurt child" seeks to fulfill these unmet needs for love. He or she may not know that sexual union can not impart the sense of completion and connectedness that is perhaps the most essential longing of the human soul.
The result of these efforts to meet one's needs homosexually is loneliness; the individual is left more fragmented and ill at ease than ever. In addition to this emotional confusion, the person often blames God for the hurts and for creating him or her homosexual. This hinders his or her ability to trust the Creator, and taste of the deep intimacy with Him that would provide comfort and strength in the face of as yet unmet inner longings.

Are "they" born that way?
The teaching of Scripture is that God intended for men and women to experience relational completion - an easing of aloneness - through union with a partner who is sexually distinct from them, and who can thus be a true helpmate and companion in life.
"So God created man in His own image…male and female He created them….The Lord God said,
'It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.'" (Genesis 1:27, 2:18)
Homosexuality is a relational brokenness that scripture reveals as contrary to God's creative intent for humanity's sexuality. In light of this, one can be sure that whether homosexuality is the result of developmental causes or inborn characteristics, it is not the result of an act of creation by God.
But is it inborn? Much research has been done to explore potential genetic or hormonal contributions to the origins of homosexuality. No conclusive evidence has yet to be found. The exploration continues, with most experts citing a variety of influences that include culture, family-of-origin, biological factors, and one's own reaction to these influences. At Desert Stream, we believe that biological factors influence the formation of personality. Our personalities in turn will partially determine how and why we act and react to the influences around us. Some personality types, when paired with other factors, may be more prone than other types to developing homosexual tendencies.

Is there hope for healing?
Homosexuality is clearly a two-fold condition. A fallen world imposes wounds, fears, identity confusion, and alienation; people react with sinful choices in an attempt to restore what has been broken and gain consolation in the midst of pain and need. Yet the goal remains unreached; the promise of real, lasting fulfillment proves to be all too elusive.
Jesus Christ is the alternative. He addresses the problem - humanity limited to self - and provides the way through which we can find fulfillment in God and His people. By releasing us from the dictates of the past, Jesus frees us to live as new creatures. The Holy Spirit carries on that process of change in our lives.
His grace is sufficient, for His strength is made perfect in weakness. He provides the mooring point for a new identity - the center out of which a true sense of well being can be enjoyed. As we draw close to Him, we are enabled to reflect His image in our humanity more and more fully.
The goal of our growth is the freedom to love aright: to relate intimately but non-erotically to the same-sex, and to be able to address the opposite sex as a needed counterpart without fear or disinterest. As we at Desert Stream believe such love is Christ's intent for us, we affirm His capacity to carry it out in our lives, and in the lives of those who seek to be free from homosexuality.

medicina

"Neviens profesors uz sodienu nevar viennoziimigi pateikt kas ir Homoseksualisms."
tas tiesa. tapat ka par daudzam lietam, ieskaitot heteroseksualismu.

"slimiiba vai uz slimibas fona nostiprinaajusies tieksme."
provokacija ir shi, jo njemot vera ieprieksh mineto, shim teikumam nav pamatojuma.

"Ja taa nebutu slimiba diez vai normaals cilveeks izveeleetos smirdosus anusus ,apsmieklu,nirgas,tiesu darbus,cietumu un pazemojumu. "
:) es esmu izvelejusies but kopa ar meiteni, tadejadi pakljaujot sevi iespejai devet par homoseksualu. protams, nekada zinja, ka jau augstak mineju, nepretendeju uz normala cilveka statusu. esmu izvelejusies smarzhigu kjermeni (ja jau mes par kjermenja sastavdaljam runajam), maigumu, pilnigu sapratni, milestibu. cilveki biezhi vien izvelas brivibu, cinju un sevi, nekskatoties uz to, ka vinjam naktos ciest no nesapratigajam masam. normalitate nav but masu parstavim, lai ka pastavetu tendence shadi sho normalitates konceptu definet. normali ir but tam, kas tu esi, normali ir nesekot masu nepamatotam viedoklim un nepakljauties tam.

par smirdoshajiem anusiem runajot. vai daudz esi tadus ostijis? vai nekad tev nav bijis anala seksa? vai tev skjiet, ka "smirdoshus anusus" izvelas tikai homoseksuali?

"Tikai provokaators var apgalvot ka taa ir briiva izveele. Vai liels mulkis."
tu gan jau ka ljoti labi apzinies, ka shads secinajums ir ljoti, ljoti provokativs un absoluti nepamatots :)

"Seksualitaate ir viens no lielaakiem dziivaas buutnes dzinuliem.Instinkti
Vairosanaas instinkts un dziivibas saglabaasanas instinkts ir visspeeciigaakie pasaulee. "
es domaju, ka cilveki ir parkapushi pari instinktivajam dzivnieku limenim (hmm, nu, vismaz daudzi "viedie" :))

"Ja taa ir briiva izveele vai cilveeks ir biseksuaalis tad rezultaats sabiedriibas izdariita spiediena deel ,aarsteesanas gadiijumaa buus pozitiivs."
vai iesakam piespiedu arsteshanu, piespiedu izvaroshanu, kamer iepatiksies vai kadus citus piespiedus pasakumus?

vai kreilisms ir slimiiba?

kirke

Vai lezbieteem ir smarzhiigas fekaalijas? Vai peec wc apmekleejuma lezbietes dupsis smarzho?

vislielakais cilveka sasniegums ir nevis kadam pakljauties, nevis dzivot pec kada iegribam un velmem, bet pilna apmera izbaudit savu brivibu un pashrealizeties. izbaudit savu brivibu, neierobezhojot citu brivibu. tachu neljaujiet sevi nogalinat, brivpratigi ljaujot no sevis izmerdet citiem jusu iedomaato greku.

HOMOSEKSUALISMS NAV GREKS. TA NAV ARI SLIMIBA. ta ir dieva dota dazhadiba.. tikai un vienigi ka cita rase, tikai un vienigi ka kreilji. ta ir dazhadiba, kas ir mazakuma. tas ari viss. un visi pamatojumi par homoseksualistu "kroplibu" ir tikai un vienigi pedejie megjinajumi kaut kada veida saglabat savu iedomato parakumu.. bet ta nav..

davaitje zhitj druzhno :)

ps. tiem, kas mani deve par jaunibas maksimalisti, informeju, ka man ir tieshi 29 gadi un jaunibas maksimalisms man ir beidzies kadus gadus 5-7 atpakalj. paldies :) eju pie savas miljotas meitenes :)

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nezinu, saulit, vienkarshi sievietes pec butibas ir daudz smarzhigakas par virieshiem :)

ja velies paostit fekalijas, tad diemzhel nevaru tev palidzet, megjini tikt ieksha kada geju kluba tualete :) domaju, ka fekaliju smarzha atskjiras nevis pec seksualas orientacijas, bet gan pec apesta sastava kvalitates. ja tevi interese labak smarzhigie dupshi, tad iesaku griezties pie tiem, kas ed auglishus daudz, kaut gan tas ir tikai pienjemums :)

29 gadi a priori veel nenoziimee, ka praats arii ir ieradies. kaa smejies- praats naak reizee ar vecumu, iznjemot tos gadiijumus, kad vecums atnaak viens.

J anu tik traki bail buut normaalai (ar to laikam saprotot paratsu, ikdienishkji cilveeku ka amiljardi visaa pasaulee), OK, normaalas iepsaidu neastaaj. Un tas shinii gadiijumaa nav kompliments.

Bet, pielajuju, ka Tavu achgaarno pashapzinju tas tikai celj. Lai taa buutu. Ceru, ka Tu apzinies, ko nodrai savam beernam. Lai gan, spriezhot peec tekstiem, jau tagad esi staavoklii un domaashana tad ir, teiksim, apgruutinaata

Kirke
Nu, diemþçl ir homoseksualitâte grçks, ir. Precîzâk, tâs praktizçðana. Jo bût homoseksuâli orientçtam vçl nav grçks, par tâdu tas kïûst stâjoties seksuâlos kontaktos ar sava dzimuma partneri. Tas nu tâ, bibliskâ izpratnç

copt- kâds tu glupjðsssss

Katrîne
Aiz ko tad es bûtu "tâds glupjðssss"? :)
Kâ kaut kam nepiekrît, tâ otrs glups, stulbs, tumsonis.....

Peec liidziibas ar sho- kas ir alkoholisms? slimiiba vai briiviiba?

Taatad- kaadeelj alkoholikjis ir slims cilveeks, ja patiesiibaa vinjsh vienkaarshi dara to, ko grib dariit- dzert. ar visaam izrietoshaam sekaam. Nu, taapat kaa homoseksuaalis.

Kirke nu vienreiz gan greizi nossaava, par to Dievu runaajot:
homosexualisms gan nav dots no Dieva, nu kas nav, tas nav ...

Pievienojos Danchita
Homoseksuâlisms nav Dieva dots.

hmm, ja dievs ir, vai dievs nav radijis visu shaja pasaule?

un pat mats nenokrît bez Dieva ziòas

Dievs radiija muusu priekshtechus. taalaak jau vairojaamies pashi. Un tajaa proesaa ieviesaas kaadas kljuudas. Gan jau ir kaads iemesls kaadeelj dazhi rodas homoseksuaali, varbuut taadeelj, lai vairoshanaas pa vinju liiniju neturpinaatos? Kaa zveeru pasaulee? AR ko ta mees labaaki?

Kirke
Dievs iº visa radîtâjs, tas tiesa. Bet Viòð nav radîjis grçku.
Homoseksualitâtes parâdîðanâs ir saistîta ar citu cilvçku izdarîtu grçku - precîzâk nemîlestîbu, emocionâlu atstumðanu, ko bçrnîbâ vai pat vçl mâtes íermenî piedzîvojis cilvçks.

neðíîsteòi, sâtana izdzimumi tie homoseksuâïi.

nu, re, cik daudzi ista dieva un vinja darbu zinataji, bet atskjirigas gan tas interpretacijas.

atsekjtiniet man sho paradoksu.

1. dievs ir radijis visu
2. greks ir dalja no visa

3. bet dievs nav radijis greku

tatad ir pieljauta kada no kljudam shaja analize
1. vai nu dievs nav radijis visu, bet tikai dalju
2. vai nu greks neietilpst visaa
3. vai ari dievs patiesham ir radijis visu, ieskaitot greeku

pec ... domam dievs ir bijis mums klatesam tikai senchu radishanas perioda un kopsh ta laika laikam dievs ir miris, ja pareizi saprotu?? vai aizbraucis ciemaa? tad jau viss paliek pashu cilveku zinjaa..

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kapec dievs radija grecigu cilveku? ja vinhs radija grecigu cilveku, tad tas ari noteikti ir bijis dieviskjo nodomu vadits akts :)

jevgenijs

ja dievs i radijis visu, vai vinhs radija ari satanu?
ka savu pretstatu, lai labak izradities varetu? tad jau vinhs baigais spelmanis un manipulators izradas :)) viss notiek ar vinja zinju, bet mes te njemamies, hehehe

Kirke
Dievs neradîja grçcîgu cilvçku. Dievs dâvâja cilvçkam brîvîbu, tajâ skaitâ arî izvçlçties grçku. Cilvçks paklausot kârdinâjumam izvçlçjâs grçku, kas faktiski nozîmç attâlinâðanos no Dieva. Tas ir tas, ko kristietîbâ sauc par pirmdzimto grçku

3 Mozus 20:13
Ja vîrs guï kopâ ar vîru, kâ tikai mçdz gulçt ar sievu, tad tie abi ir izdarîjuði negantîbu, tiem abiem ir mirtin jâmirst; un lai viòu asinis paliek uz viòiem.

3. Mozus 18:22
22 Ar vîru tev nebûs gulçt kopâ, kâ kopâ guï ar sievu; tâ ir negantîba.
23 Un nekâdi dzimuma sakari tev nav atïauti ar lopiem, ka tu ar tiem neapgânies; arî sievai ir aizliegts nostâties, lai tiktu apieta no dzîvnieka; tâ ir kauna pilna apgânîðanâs.
26 Bet jums bûs pasargât Manus likumus un Manas taisnâs tiesas, un nekâ nedariet no visâm ðîm negantîbâm, ne iedzimtais, nedz sveðinieks, kas mît jûsu vidû.
29 Jo ikviens, kas kâdu no ðîm negantîbâm darîs, arî tâs dvçseles, kas to darîjuðas,- tâs lai tiek izdeldçtas no savas tautas vidus.

Vçstule romieðiem
25 tâpçc ka viòi dieviðío patiesîbu apmainîjuði pret meliem un sâkuði dievinât un pielûgt radîbu, atstâjot novârtâ Radîtâju, kas ir augsti teicams mûþîgi, âmen.
26 Tâpçc Dievs viòus nodevis apkaunojoðâs kaislîbâs: sievietes apmainîjuðas dabisko dzimumu kopdzîvi ar pretdabisko.

27 Tâpat arî vîrieði, atmezdami dabisko kopdzîvi ar sievieti, cits pret citu iekaisuði savâ iekârç, piekopdami netiklîbu, vîrietis ar vîrieti, paði saòemdami sodu par savu maldîðanos.


Tâ ir rakstîts Bîbelç.
Neesmu liels speciâlists reliìijas lietâs, taèu ne visas lietas un ne visas cilvçka spçjas un vçlmes nâk no Dieva. Mçs bieþi grçkojam, ja nelabais mûs kârdina un mçs ðiem kârdinâjumiem ïaujamies.


"kapec dievs radija grecigu cilveku?"
lai kâds kristietis mani palabo, ja maldos. Cilvçks bija bez grçka, kamçr Âdams un Ieva dzîvoja Çdenes dârzâ un klausîja Dievam.
vari palsît ðeit skaidrojumu: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bibele/Nr03.htm

Dievs vai ne, bet katraa laikaposmaa ir bijis cilveeku vairaakums k.kaadaa jautaajumaa - par melnajiem, par zilajiem, par valstsiekaartu.

Ja kaads meegjinaatu Romaa oponeet, ka zilie - tas ir greekas, tad man domaat, jamo nomeetaatu ar akmenjiem ne mazaak kaa tagad zilo miileetaajus..citejot klasikjus: nenostaajies pret sabiedriibu, a to sabiedriiba nostaasies pret tevi:p

kas tas pa mulkibam, ka homoseksualis ir tikpat normala paradiba ka heterosexualis???
1) jau jau taa ir norma, tad kapec mes neesam 50% : 50% ??
acimredzet ja homosexuali ir tikai 10%, tad sie 10% savu novirzi ir ieguvusi, nezinamu iemeslu delj. galvenokart uzskatu, ka musdienas klut par geju vai lesbieti ir moderni (ta vairumam no 10% liekas) - ir loti daudz serialu, filmu, kas, sekas neapzinadamies, propogandee biseksualismu, homosexualismu, sexualo attiecibu brivibu- gulu ar ko gribu, kaa gribu. normalas gimenes tadas situacijas nav! GEJI UN LEZBIETES NAV NORMA!!! Atbalstu ka pret viniem VAJAG iztureties ka pret lidzvertigiem, nediskriminet un nenosodit, BET tas nenozime, ka vini IR lidzvertigi, parasti, normali cilveki. skan jau stulbi, bet sexuala orientacija ir taa atskiriba, kas atdala parastos no ''neparastajiem''.
2) ja homosexualisms ir norma (dabaa paredzeta), tad kapec berni nerodas arii viendzimuma sakaros? dabaa tomer paredzets, ka paris=sieviete+virietis, nevis kaut kadi mistiskie salikumi.
Nesaucu homosexualus par slimniekiem, vai idiniem, bet par to ka taa ir norma (milet savu dzimumu) man neiestastisiet ...

Pie taa ir vainiigas maates...Ja 1.gruutnieciibas trimestrii lieto X-zaales ar Y-blakneem - te tev ir REZULTAATS...=)